Posts by Black Sheep

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Guy Pierce Memorial Program

by lambsbottom in

forgive me if someone already posted this but here ya go:.

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http://www.sendspace.com/file/udl79c.

Black Sheep

Born to unbaptized, non-practicing Mormons and has now been launched into outer space to be with the Flying Spaghetti Monster

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GB's letter regarding UN membership - How Do You Prove Them Wrong?

by will-be-apostate in

i was reading brant jones' experience (published on jwfacts.com).

i read both letters: the one he wrote to the gb and the one he recieved from them.

link: http://jwfacts.com/watchtower/experiences/brantjonesunresponse.pdf.

Black Sheep

Phizzy, they didn't even claim it happened.

They want the reader to arrive at that conclusion without them having to make the claim (because it would be a lie), and without providing evidence for it (because there isn't any). They have pulled out one of their favorite tricks of not lying, but not telling the truth, worded in a way to fool the reader into believing something the author doesn't believe himself and never actually said.

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I'm going back.

by dazed but not confused in

jw
friends

to hawaii!!

what were you thinking?.

ive been to the big island twice when i was a 11 and 13. my sister lived there and flew me out.

Black Sheep

I love the tropics and go back whenever I get a chance. I hope you have a ball.

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GB's letter regarding UN membership - How Do You Prove Them Wrong?

by will-be-apostate in

i was reading brant jones' experience (published on jwfacts.com).

i read both letters: the one he wrote to the gb and the one he recieved from them.

link: http://jwfacts.com/watchtower/experiences/brantjonesunresponse.pdf.

Black Sheep

So .... going by Dana's view, the WT researchers would only be denied access if they didn't pass inspection by UN Security.

How often did that happen?

Did it ever happen?

Where is it documented?

Is there any evidence that any WT journalist was ever denied access to any of the contents of the UN library for any reason, prior to the church's applying for membership?

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First Post...Hi everyone! Thanks for all of your help over the years!

by stuckinarut2 in

jw
friends

well... as they say on talk back radio "i'm a long time listener, first time caller"(poster in this case!).

i have been a "lurker" for several years, but never had the courage to take the step and join up...until now.. i really want to thank everyone for their insights and comments throughout the forum.

although i have not contibuted to discussions, i have benefitted very much from all of your comments and observations on all topics.

Black Sheep

WoW. You are spoiled. You even got a welcome from our Granny Mouthy who says she doesn't live here any more.

It's nice you finally popped in.

Cheers

Chris

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This is my first post

by Make Lemonade in

i wanted to express appreciation to the members of this forum.

there are resources here that are deep.

like we heard from the stage, "what is your depth and breadth of bible knowledge?

Black Sheep

I'm pleased you had the sense to toss that bucket.

Welcome to your New World.
Black Sheep

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Soon... In use since 1879!!

by ILoveTTATT in

jw
friends

i wondered how fast the wt publications used the word "soon"... as in expectation of some prophecy or fulfillment.... eight pages into the first watchtower... july 1879.... "our design has been to present to the body of christ, "the chaste virgin" church, which expects soon to go in to the marriage and become christ's bride, a selection of sacred songs especially adapted to her condition and expressive of her desires and hopes.".

the expectation?

1881. http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/1800s.php.

Black Sheep

I use 'soon' with my JWs whenever I agree to do something they know I am never going to do.

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GB's letter regarding UN membership - How Do You Prove Them Wrong?

by will-be-apostate in

i was reading brant jones' experience (published on jwfacts.com).

i read both letters: the one he wrote to the gb and the one he recieved from them.

link: http://jwfacts.com/watchtower/experiences/brantjonesunresponse.pdf.

Black Sheep

Does the letter provide evidence that the contents of the library were unavailable to them if they didn't have NGO status?

Is there any evidence anywhere that the contents of the library were unavailable to them if they didn't have NGO status?

I'm not aware of any rules that would have denied them access to the library or the contents, only that they had to apply ahead for a day pass if they wanted to visit Dag Hammarskjöld. If that is correct, then there was no NEED to join and their excuse is BS. It is up to the person making the claim, that they needed membership for access, so it is up to them to prove it.

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